This is one kickass interview. Instead of advocating namby pamby excuses for racism, Noel Ignatiev wants to totally dismantle this system of racism, and he wants whites to help, instead of sitting back and making excuses for the racism of whites, and blaming the whole problem on blacks.
I also have to give him props for having a journal called Race Traitor. It has that good PR punch that can get this message heard, instead of just sitting back with the Journal of Social Psychology, maybe doing good work, but not grabbing that media coverage.
Although I'd like to know how he went from doing all these blue collar jobs to teaching history at Harvard..