Amanda Marcotte, white feminist, hates sex! I mean, she doesn't exactly think that milk enemas and yelling slurs is sexual entertainment that really advances the feminist agenda, even though there was a WOMAN in it, making it automagically feminist!

I think this whole "anyone who even thinks that porn is less than feminist hates sex" meme is played out. One can have plenty of enjoyable bedroom activities[although it is alright not to have sex, btw] even if you think that slapping a woman, calling her a cunt, and suchlike doesn't exactly become non misogynistic because there's fucking there too.

...So I was innocently reading white feminist blogs, and I run across this gross story. So a young woman is being pushed into unwanted sexual activity and unwanted video taping, and what's the porno industry response? Let's sell video tapes* of this! Yea, I think I'm going to puke. Now in a perfectly feminist world, this sort of thing would not get any views because no one would want to watch someone basically get raped, but in our world, this is disgusting.

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The soul killing potential of the internet.

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From McSweeney's- a woman writes about porn people are actually watching.

*Ok, no one uses video tapes anymore, but you get the idea!

Let's mock this dumbass! He blows a lot of hot air about porn, completely ignoring that porn is ACTING. A PERFORMANCE. A HUGE ASS INDUSTRY. THAT WHEN THE REST OF US GET BUSY, WE GOTTA GO AND GET FOLKS TO UNLEARN THIS BS. Yes, some women are in this industry making bank. He says Oh, nobody made them perform in porn. Yay for them! That's a side step, though. I'm not talking about how happy and great folks might feel in real life[although folks overstate this.] I'm talking about what the porn industry is putting out there for us to consume. Nobody made anyone perform in blackface, either, but I'm not going to accept that it's all cool and non problematic. I understand that some people think anything with sex in it is saved from comment. Me? No fucking way. Public 'art' is there for public comment. Just because porn depicts people performing sex acts doesn't mean that we can't be like "dude, she's faking it. And I bet she doesn't actually do that in the bedroom. She gets her check, she keeps on rolling, paying her rent, saving for school." It's like actors. I don't think that every single black actor who has been a slap stick soul brother in a film goes around at every party yelling their catch phrase. No, no, no. And when guys that Sonjata or whatever say that they really think this is about two people in the bedroom, that they just woke up one day and decided to make a sex tape, that creeps me out. The actress is separate from her role. Yes, she's being cast as a one dimensional caricature of race and sex, but that's not who she is.

[BTW: I thought of a better analogy later and decided to add it. Porn is like a reality tv show. Now, reality tv uses 'real people' but they cast them, they edit things out, there's a general story line. Even if we're going less The Bachelor and more Intervention, you can't use all of the footage, so people make choices on what would be the most exciting. People's behavior also tends to change when cameras go on, and the type of person who wants to be filmed is not representative of the entire population- so even 'amateur' porn has many differences from the bedrooms of the majority of people]

You can't say don't judge people's bedrooms when the windows are wide open. If porn actors, directors and producers wanted us not to talk about their work, they'd not post it on the net, nor would they try to induce people to spend money on it.

You see, when folks say they can't tell the difference between a fantasy, even a misogynistic white centric fantasy, and reality, that scares me. No no no! Real sex doesn't come in neat boxes of anal asians, black man on white girl, or 'mature'. Real sex isn't a performance, market tested, hoping for the biggest audience, or the one with the most cash. Porn? It's like pro wrestling. STAGED. Not to mention, women can make misogynist trash too. Check out Twilight.

And his experience of feminists claming that looking at a woman is sexual harrassment is as phoney balony as the white folks who swear up and down, up and down, that black people stole their spot in college, or MRAs who swear up and down that women are poking holes in condoms and using turkey basters in their exhaustive drive to have screaming babies wake them up every single day for months on end. I just don't believe it. I think it's because I hear so much minimization of male violence or at least male jerkassery.

I bet once we get to the end of that story of 'just looking', we'll have guys leering on the street, folks looking at folks undressing, and video tapes of people's panties all in 'just looking'. I mean, if actual rape can be called 'having sex' by news outlets, what can we expect from dude?

BTW: If a black person with a penis identifies as a woman, I go with it. The idea that if only fathers would come back and head the family, all would be fine does trivialize women's work, and makes it invisible. "Oh yea...I guess you work, and do tons of childcare and housework. But man! If only more men were fathers..." is the attitude. I don't think being a man or being a woman is essential to the family. It's the person who does the work, who takes care of the kids when they are sick, who teaches, who guides, who mentors who is important to the family, even if they are both women, both men, men and women in nontraditonal roles. Not to mention, maybe some of us don't want to be in traditional families, and actually, the idea that only the nuclear family model is good for the black community is played out.

It's too tied to economics. When things get tough, without the ability to be 'the provider', we see folks giving up. But, I think there are other models that can protect all children, even if dad gets ill and dies, even if the mom becomes addicted. And not all women and not all men want to be breadwinner and home drudge.

Also, yes, I did call out the general male privilege of "I deserve this sort of woman". Because it annoys me. Men seem to believe they deserve the proverbial ten, when they are batting more at a one, or maybe a two. I'm not attacking all black men, just the sort of black man who says I'm not dating black women for X reason, and you look at him, and say "and you're so great, why?"

Hey, lady, the fact that most porn strips all the joy and humanity from sex is not a bug. It's a feature. Certain people are taught that sex is just disconnected ass and disconnected tits, and even if women are hurt or exploited, well...that doesn't keep them up at night.

Personally, I don't think looking at porn should be conflated with sex. I'm sure plenty of people are humping each other right now, without any need for Larry Flynt's products.

Yay for allopathic medicine. Thanks to it we get face transplants. It took millions of hours of hard work and dedication to get anti rejection drugs and gain surgical skills to create this medical marvel.

I like how when it's not real women being messed around with, yay porners are like wtf to 12 year olds seeing the pornz.

I think the one sentence of this article makes me think of a crucial shift in our thought about sex. 'We don't want to give up what turns us on' I first started thinking about this...well, OK, I have to admit my guilty pleasure. I like reading Pandagon. Despite being too lazy to raise anyone's consciousness, I still feel sort of bad. Anyway, I was reading about how Eliot Spitzer thinks springing his choking fetish on prostitutes is a totally sensible thing to do.

I think that what turns us on is considered too important in our society. Yes, choking prostitutes and not using a condom[possibly exposing them to some diseases] might have turned Elliot Spitzer on, but I think other considerations should have come first, like was the woman fully prepared for the scene, health risks,etc. It's all right to be turned on by certain things, but you need to look beyond the orgasm. Our culture encourages us to stop at the orgasm, and not see beyond it. And I think it's bad for everybody.

I'm against viewing porn at work. Why? I must hate sex and men, right? No...it's because I don't want to be hearing some 'Oh, ghetto bitch, you're such a hot slut' when I'm trying to do some work. I especially don't want to know that you want to see hot teens with tight pussies being fucked. There are some boundaries we need to have in the workplace, and your sex life is one of them.

When you're looking at porn and getting all aroused, that's way way too much information. Not to mention, I don't want to get into a big thing about how watching stuff by some girl raping pervo[*cough* girls gone wild *cough*] isn't exactly showing much respect for women.

I don't know about you, but porn? doesn't make me hot. Anyway, we have the internet. There's always camwhores, as they say.

Even on the internet, there's nobody at this time[1/6/09 at 8:20 CST] saying they want 50 strangers beating off and jizzing in their eye.

Oh HELL NO. Oh, and there's a good ol' porn ain't always exploitative person in the comments. And that good ol' 'what if people have a racial stereotype fetish' person? That's why I reserve the right to say your kink is not OK. You may jerk off to ghetto hoes and big black brute dicks, little white girly chicks all you want, and I can say hey, that's based on the most base form of racism. You don't get a pass because you like to beat off to something!

Now we got oh, japanese porn is different and worse! We're totally forgetting our barely legal girls gone wild body fluids everywhere porn to point the finger at japan's horribly disturbing and horrible porn... I'm not saying it isn't awful, but I think it's a porn problem, not a Japan problem.

I also think that the whole pass off your guilt by consumerism thing is also seen in western porn with the whole 'alt porn' thing. Let's pretend these lovely ladies can only get through art school by getting nekkid!

Should I read about Adler or correlations or whatever, or should I make fun of facial wank? Yes, facial wank.


I agree with this comment.

Also, good 'in before someone says I'm uptight because I hate facials' Really, women who don't want their hair messed up by spunk are just as sexually liberated as those who want their hairdos messed up by semen.


Can the hotness of degradation be the point?

Stop being rational, lady!


If you get your sex pointers from porn, you're doomed. If you get your sex
pointers from fanfic, the home of the ass hymen, you're double doomed.

"It occurred to me, while I was looking at two decades of Penthouses, that Penthouse and other magazines like it had absolutely nothing to do with women and absolutely everything to do with pictures of women" Neil Gaiman on page 25 of Smoke and Mirrors.

But many people never come to this realization that real women and real sex aren't the same as porn women[posed and directed just for that moment] and porn sex[written by a person, most often a man].

Anyway, I bring you the worst porn ever. If you read this, you'll die laughing.

I like the fact that I don't go around making up convuluted reasons why I think 14 year olds should have access to incest porn. I just say- wtf? just no.

People are worried about dangerous pesticides being used in the US. An astute misogynist found this, and was shocked by the use of dangerous chemicals.

I really love this article- especially the points about how women's sexuality is seen as being only wanting to be looked at or fucked. Even slashers are seen as deviant in our society, so deeply ingrained is the idea that women don't have their own sexualities.

about porn- the thing is that I don't see so many people trying to say that working 15 hours a day in a hundred degree weather and then being raped by your asshole boss is glamorous and feminist. Also, porn is very visible. I go on facebook- and what's posted? old women's reactions to two girls, 1 cup. We also don't see as much competition among women to say "I'm cool with farm workers dying from pesticide use". Also, porn is a very female centered issue with men at the margins- and farm workers- to me, while women are specially oppressed in farm work- it's more of a class/global status of your country problem rather than a 'pure' women's issue. - why porn gets more attention than farm work.

Oh noes, it's pubes!!! Locked mockery of stupidity. Join sf_drama to understand how our parents omgsurvived even though your mama had omgpubes. This is why you shouldn't get your worldview on sex from porn. Just as The Fast and the Furious is not driver's ed.

Hhahah, some funny talk, but then, there comes the worst porn ever.[it's linked, so to avoid it, don't click. I didn't]. Porn- making sex unerotic since god knows when. Making sex unerotic is wrong, wrong wrong. Sex should be super erotic! Note: while people have the freedom to fuck each other's peeholes, you always have to freedom to say no to god knows what gross thing. Even if you've done whatever it was before, and you just don't feel like it that day.

Now that I have your attention by writing about porn, grocery prices are surging. High numbers of the working poor are coming to food pantries with shrinking food supplies. So if you have too much food in your pantry, share it with the hungry. Do you really need that 50th can of peas when that can can be yummy food for the hungry?

the waaahbulance is not serving me because it's too busy picking these folks up. Please don't call 811 for a waaaahbulance unless you really need it. Seconds count!

Ah, I love the competition to be the girl who is the coolest with porn. Really, I think we should be telling folks to respect the feelings of folks that are actually in a relationship with them. Relationships are hard work, and I have to admit that my view is that it's better to work things out with the person who will be there for you when things get tough...

I agree. I play video games and all, but I don't think I'm an honorary male. A woman describes her experiences with porn-sick men.

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